Just before Donald Trump’s March 4th speech to Congress, a lip reader claims that JD Vance uttered some terrifying words. Now, details of the conversation he thought was private are emerging. JD Vance’s political journey has been nothing short of a dramatic transformation. As early as 2016 — the same year his book “Hillbilly Elegy” was released — Vance openly expressed his disdain for Donald Trump. He called him an “idiot,” likened him to Nixon, and, at worst, “America’s Hitler.” “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical Nixon-like asshole who wouldn’t be so bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler,” Reuters reported that Vance had sent a private Facebook message to an associate in 2016. When his Hitler comment became public in 2022, “a spokesman didn’t dispute it, but said it no longer represented Vance’s views.” Since then, he has become one of Trump’s most loyal cronies, rising through the ranks. On March 4, House Speaker Mike Johnson opened the U.S. Congress for the president’s bold and fiery State of the Union address. But just before Trump promised that his approach to politics was “just getting started,” Vice President JD Vance had a conversation with Johnson. This took place in front of a live microphone. But what did he say?
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Speaking to the Mirror, lip-reading expert Jeremy Freeman claims Vance said: “Yes, it’s a full count and a long time ago.” He was also heard telling Johnson: “By the way, I think the speech is going to be fantastic. But I don’t know how you’re going to do this for 90 minutes.” Johnson’s response to the vice president was picked up by a nearby microphone, where he is heard saying: “The hardest part was doing it under Biden, when his speech was a stupid campaign speech.” This wasn’t a one-off comment – it was serious enough for Johnson to react by discreetly lowering his microphone, as if he realised their conversation was private. But what exactly was Vance referring to? And how does it fit into the wider political landscape as Trump and his allies prepare for another contentious political battle?
“Vance is the threat”
Vance’s words come at a time when he has been making headlines for his fiery rhetoric and political stances. Just days before his cryptic remarks, he had a heated exchange with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the Oval Office and has been publicly dismissive of Britain. While his comment about a “full reckoning” is not confirmed or understood, the comment sparked speculation online as many gave their opinions on what was said. “What is the reckoning JD? What are you vultures planning? You’ve hijacked our country and it’s money involved, what are you going to do now? Send us to camp?” tweeted one netizen.
“I’ve seen Vance’s type before. The weedy kid who hangs around the bully, but gets dirty when the bully is not around and is confronted alone. Throws out words, but stomps back when he realizes he’s about to get punched in the face. I loathe bullies and those who enable them,” writes another. Given this transformation, his “full count” comment is particularly intriguing. Is he signaling a purge of anti-Trump elements within the party? A warning to political opponents? Or is it a broader call for a shift in government priorities under the new administration? Regardless, one thing is certain: Vance is no longer just a politician in Trump’s inner circle. He is a key player in an administration that seems poised for sweeping political and institutional change. And if his words are any indication, the count—whatever it may be—has only just begun